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dragon99919 Tavern Dweller |
Heroes Chronicles - H3 Editor Convertation.... All raight... Let's rool. I just bought in my shop first 4 Heroes Chronicles. This is really great fun. ;p And I have an idea... But I can't make it exist. YOUR OWN CHRONICLES! The H3 engine, and HC (Heroes Chronicles) engines are the same, but SoD editor don't want to open HC campaings, and HC don't want to open my H3 campaings. In other forum (Polish forum, I am from Poland ;p) somebody say I must change values in "HeX Editor". He says, he can't do that, so I am here. Can someone tell me, how to convert H3 campaings for HC? Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link | |||
EnergyZ Legendary Hero President of MM Wiki |
Yeah, I'd really want that to know as well. Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link | |||
| Herry Bad-mannered Famous Hero 100% Devil |
Well, editing values in hex editor does make sense... He probably means changing the values so it looks like it's a HC campaign maker, when it's not... I would do so, if only I had the exact address of the values... Because you know, searching for it manually is a pain in the @$$, for me at least. Can you ask him about it? This is a pretty interesting deal. EDIT: Meanwhile I'll reinstall H3 and HC and see what I can do by myself. No promises though. Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link | |||
| verriker Honorable Legendary Hero We don't need another 'eroes |
repost this in the WOG forum mate, someone like OxFEA, Bes or Orzie probably knows lol Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link | |||
| potmdehex Known Hero professional ERM™ scripter |
I don't know about 2010 when this thread was first created but it has been converted and available for some time. Googling leads to for example: link Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link | |||
| verriker Honorable Legendary Hero We don't need another 'eroes |
no need for a jerkass tone mate, this thread is about helping to repackage H3 to chronicles which has never been done as well as conversion to H3 only (or otherwise we go here, cheers for also knowing how to google though lol) Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link | |||
| zmudziak22 Supreme Hero Heroes 3 Fan |
Heroes Chronicles campaigns are not converted, but remade. Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link | |||
| EnergyZ Legendary Hero President of MM Wiki |
So there is no way to actually convert them? Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link | |||
| verriker Honorable Legendary Hero We don't need another 'eroes |
nah those are converted, it would be practically impossible to remake the maps with that level of perfect accuracy and there are even unused texts in them lol Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link | |||
| Salamandre Admirable Omnipresent Hero Wog refugee |
Actually wog editor has a copy/paste function, which makes possible to "redesign" any map in a couple of seconds. Now why would anyone do that for Heroes Chronicles, I dunno, those campaigns are extremely poorly done imo, not even close to SoD level. Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link | |||
| EnergyZ Legendary Hero President of MM Wiki |
You can sense Heroes Chronicles has a stronger RPG side, rather than being a strategy game. Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link | |||
| verriker Honorable Legendary Hero We don't need another 'eroes |
that would require to have the map in H3 format first though I presume, so need to convert it one way or the other lol chronicles are easy campaigns developed strictly for casuals to get hooked on Heroes and done with couple months turnaround, the point is the storyline but not the gameplay lol Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link | |||
| Herry Bad-mannered Famous Hero 100% Devil |
That doesn't apply to Conquest of the underworld. You don't know micro-management, you'll never win those. Sure, it's not as hard as SoD(specifically yog's campaign IMO), but you need to use strategy if you want to get anywhere. I also agree with EnergyZ on the RPG thing. Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link | |||
| Salamandre Admirable Omnipresent Hero Wog refugee |
Funny how the argument of being more oriented rpg excuses the poor design. Verriker, Heroes maps have the version value hardcoded inside. I am 100% sure that changing that value in hex edit will make the map compatible with any other editor version, except if there are special objects inside. Era did it for Hota maps, also Biobob did it when designing maps in WoG editor then "converting" to SoD by changing the value. Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link | |||
| verriker Honorable Legendary Hero We don't need another 'eroes |
if you know someone who can do that please send them here, because that or something similar is the converting we all talk about and hope for in this thread lol Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link | |||
| EnergyZ Legendary Hero President of MM Wiki |
Verriker, Heroes maps have the version value hardcoded inside. I am 100% sure that changing that value in hex edit will make the map compatible with any other editor version, except if there are special objects inside. Era did it for Hota maps, also Biobob did it when designing maps in WoG editor then "converting" to SoD by changing the value. I never said it is an excuse. Heck, I have heard the Chronicles was made for people that found Heroes III campaigns too hard to complete. That and it was a prelude to Heroes IV, of sorts. Could be it was a low budget for such a decision. Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link | |||
| potmdehex Known Hero professional ERM™ scripter |
What you are saying is true for WoG <-> SoD since the WoG format is basically SoD format (I know nothing about HotA but it makes sense if it is the same as this is by far easiest approach), but RoE, AB and SoD differ vastly from each other. Opening a SoD map with its version (first four bytes) hex edited to RoE in the RoE map editor is not even anywhere close to working, even if it's just a blank map not containing a single object/settings (and if it does contain objects and settings it's even further from working). The way to succeed in SoD->Chronicles conversion which seems to be this topic's purpose is to hex diff maps/campaigns from the two formats to find differences. A good starting point would be comparing the maps me and verriker have linked with the same maps in Chronicles format. I would say it's likely for them to be very similar, so if it might be as simple as Salamandre's suggestion of changing version value. If it's anything like RoE vs AB vs SoD that's a different story though. Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link | |||
| Salamandre Admirable Omnipresent Hero Wog refugee |
Ah ok, I saw it working with WoG->SoD and vice-versa, was thinking will work with all. Send Instant Message | Send E-Mail | View Profile | Quote Reply | Link | |||
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